Vista 20p with Interface setup

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Hey Archie,


I tried to take a few photos but my panel internals are so packed it's hard to follow any lines.

I had a look at your diagram and the only thing that seems to be missing as far as I can tell is that there is an "IN" connection all the way at the very far right that corresponds to the relay module on each of those interface boards.  That "IN" needs to be connected to the Konnected Pro Board, which has two corresponding "OUT" connections.  You need to connect those two together in order for the main board to provide those outputs.

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In case you can't find where the "OUT" connections are located, if you look at the diagram you provided of the main Konnected board, it is at the very left hand side of that diagram,.  There is a row of 6 pins (3 for each output).

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 Hi everyone,


Through lots of pain and trial and error and definitely some help from you all and the folks at Konnected, I've been able to get to a point where I see Armed Stay and Away in my Home Assistant Sensors for the Konnected boards.


Now I'm off to the next step to setup the Alarm Panel to recognize when these outputs execute and provide the capability to set my alarm from anywhere.


If you have Home Assistant automations that set this up, I would really appreciate your assistance.

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 Sometime you need to take step back and let things cool and then charge at it again. 


For those of you struggling as I have been with configuring Konnected in parallel with your current system, you might just have everything done that you need to do and just frustration of how you think it should work doesn't match.


I still have a little more to go, but I've at least figured out "the switch" and could not believe that the switch control that armed/disarmed the alarm, was right there, identified literally as a "switch" - look at this screen capture and ensure that you are additing entities associated with konnected "switch" to your UI





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Now, I'm only trying to figure out the Arm Away fucntion that is not working properly and trying to get that going.


What a relief


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I want to give a very big Thank you to David Parsons! I wouldn’t have been able to do the project without that pdf document and your advice!!! From the bottom of my heart thank you so very much!!! Guide on the Konnected website did not work for me. Thank you Dave!!!

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I was able just now to tie the output 1 and output 2 together to a single relay feed on the keyswitch and it works.   I have separate devices in the cloud with different durations.

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thx for post


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 I wanted to add to this post to thank Archie Johnson and Jason H, and to add what I've learned.

Archie got me most of the way there (on another thread), and Jason's post got me working. I never would have thought to do what Jason described, but my setup has been working for 2 days now. Thank you, Archie and Jason!!!


I'm going to repeat a lot of what Jason posted, but I'm hoping the why I lay it out will be slightly easier to follow, a little more granular, and the HA info helps move people a little further.

My Equipment:

  • Legacy:
  • Vista 15p
  • (2) 4219 Expansion boards (A and B)


Konnected Equipment:

  • (2) Alarm Panel Pros (APP1 and APP2)
  • 4 Interface boards (A, B, C, D)


Important Note:

  • My Keyswitch is on Zone 1 of the Vista 15p


Konnected Hardware Configuration:

  • Ribbons, Switches, and Jumpers
  • APP1 is connected to Interfaces A (Exp 1) and B (Exp 2)
  • APP2 is connected to Interfaces C (Exp 1) and D (Exp 2)
  • The switch on APP1 is set to Out 2
  • The jumpers on Interfaces A and B are set to NO


Power:

  • Ground on Interfaces A and B are running to screw 4 on the Vista 15p
  • VREF on Interfaces A and B are running to screw 5 on the Vista 15p
  • Ground on Interfaces C and D are running to ground on Expansion 4219 A
  • VREF on Interfaces C and D are running to 12v DC on Expansion 4219 A



I won't go into detail on where each standard zone connects, but I'll detail the ones involving outputs and the key switch:

Interface A:

  • Relay 1 connects to Vista 15p Zone 1/Screw 8 with a wire and a 2K EOL resister
  • Relay 2 connects to Vista 15p Zone 1/Screw 9
  • IN connects to APP1 Out 1


Interface B:

  • Zone 1 connects to Vista 15p Output 17
  • Zone 2 connects to Vista 15p Output 18
  • Relay 1 connects to Vista 15p Zone 1/Screw 8 with a wire and a 2K EOL resister
  • Relay 2 connects to Vista 15p Zone 1/Screw 9
  • IN connects to APP1 Out 2


FYI:

  • APP2 and Interfaces C and D are used just for sensors


Important:

  • Vista 15p Screw 8 connects to Vista 15p Screw 9 with a wire and a 2K EOL resister


Vista Programming:




Miscellaneous Notes

  • Expansion 4219 B is on the other side of the house (to save from running cable all the way across the attic)
  • Since I couldn't use the short ribbon cable provided by Konnected in the accessory box to connect the zones from this expansion board to Interfaces C and D, I ran a Cat 6 23/4 solid-core cable to where my Konnected boards were
  • It's working just fine



Home Assistant Configuration
First you'll configure each I/O, then you'll configure each sensor in greater detail. I've grouped it by each physical contact so it's easier to substitute for your physical configuration

Interface B Zone 1 is seen as Zone 7 in HA

  • Configure I/O, choose binary sensor
  • Configure Binary Sensor: type is door, leave "Invert the open/close state" unchecked
  • When it's open, your alarm is armed (it does NOT specify whether it's set to Armed/Home or Armed Away)


Interface B Zone 2 is seen as Zone 8 in HA

  • Configure I/O, choose binary sensor
  • Configure Binary Sensor: type is door, leave "Invert the open/close state" unchecked
  • When it's open, your alarm has passed the warning beeps and gotten to the point where your siren is making sweet music for bad guys (run!)


APP1 Alarm1

  • Configure I/O, choose disabled


APP1 Out 1 (this is my Arm/Stay)

  • Configure I/O, choose switchable output
  • Configure Switchable Output:
  • Output when on = high
  • Pulse duration = 2000
  • Pause between pulses = <blank>
  • Times to repeat = <blank>
  • Configure additional states for this zone = no


APP1 Out2/Alarm2 (this is my Arm/Away)

  • Configure I/O, choose switchable output
  • Configure Switchable Output:
  • Output when on = high
  • Pulse duration = 1000
  • Pause between pulses = <blank>
  • Times to repeat = <blank>
  • Configure additional states for this zone = no



Additional Notes:

  • My Vista was originally configured for Auto-Stay. That means if you enable Arm/Away, but no door sensors open and then close before the alarm is fully enabled (during countdown), the alarm will automatically arm to STAY mode at the end of the countdown because it assumed you didn't leave
  • So if for any reason you want to arm while away from home, and none of your doors open then, close, you will not get the coverage you want
  • This can be disabled by going into the Vista installer mode and change *84 to zero
  • The way the system is configured above, HA won't show you whether your system is armed in Stay or Away mode. For me, the switch on the app doesn't stay in position
  • I am considering a solution of an automation that goes something like this for situations where the alarm is enabled from the keypad: If the alarm is armed, but not from HA, and the door did not open in X amount of time, then the Alarm is in stay mode



I had hit a wall after following Nate's tutorials to the letter and not having success, so I reached out to Konnected support. Unfortunately, I didn't feel like the support was moving in a helpful direction. So, I really hope this helps someone, even a little bit, and saves time and stress. That being said, the credit goes to Archie and Jason. Good luck to you!

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I’m able to successfully follow these instructions to have the key switch on Zone 1. However, my Zone 1 is in a constant Fault 1 state which I can’t seem to fix.

A few things I’ve tried:

  1. I’ve programmed Zone 1 to be disabled and then reprogrammed as a Soft Switch but the Faulting persisters.

  2. I’ve even power cycled and the Faulting persists.

  3. I’ve even tried removing the relay and leaving just the 2k ohm resistor connecting 8 to 9. A power cycles makes it come up as a fault (with KeySwitch programmed).

What magic was this disable / enable?

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I got out my multimeter and noticed it was an error on my end coupled with a faulty resistor. I swapped out the resistor and changed the relay to switch it to Normally Open. My zone 1 is not in a faulted state anymore!

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This thread really helped me out. Making the resistor in parallel with the relay stopped my panel from displaying an error. Then I was able to use a wire to short terminals 8 and 9 to confirm that if the relay was working, the system would arm and disarm. The final piece for me was making sure the switch on my Pro board was switched to OUT2 instead of ALARM. The wiring diagram shows it using OUT2 but never mentions that the switch is set to ALARM by default (at least for me). Hopefully anyone else having this problem with trying to run the keyswitch on Zone 1 will find this!